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Such Stuff as Kings Were Made of…ReDux 2

09 Dec

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BIG KINGLY NEWS
…and TOTAL MYSTERY, TOO

Yes, the news is finally here* on the Y-DNA of England’s King Richard III.

Last week (Dec 2) the team at the University of Leicester in the UK released its findings and details of the study it undertook on the skeletal remains found there two years ago under a parking lot of a man who’d died in the Middle Ages and had been, allegedly, when he walked the earth none other than Richard III, last king of the Plantagenet dynasty; a man infamous thanks to his portrayal by Shakespeare in the play of the same name. [King, T. E. et al. Identification of the remains of King Richard III. Nat. Commun. 5:5631 doi: 10.1038/ncomms6631 (2014).]

The richly sourced and detailed study concludes with about as much certainty as is possible that they are the remains of England’s King Richard III (1452-1485). His whole genome has been examined, and among other interesting things about that, some doubt has been cast–perhaps–on some of the historical royal succession.
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Chart showing the ruling descendants of Edward III and the lines to Richard III and the living DNA donors.

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John of Gaunt

Ostensible ancestor of living male-line descendants whose DNA was compared to Richard III’s.

 

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His ostensible son, John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset.

 

Click here TUES DEC 23 to find the scoop on the Global Family Reunion’s blog.

Tidbit:

the 4 living guys: R1b-U152

Richard III: G2a-P278

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*(Yes, many of us out here were actually waiting with baited breath for this news item that to many must sound like it’s among the most esoteric, most meaningless bits of irrelevant trivia ever. But it’s not. If human life is defined by, or at least given shape by the fact that as pattern-recognizers we make meaning through narratives, personal & cultural, then this news serves to elucidate a key tangle of plot point in the narrative of how the world got to be the way it is just now.)

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2 responses to “Such Stuff as Kings Were Made of…ReDux 2

  1. Donna Campbell

    December 9, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Isn’t one aspect of this paternal mystery the question of whether the “cuckoldry” occurred before or after Richard III?

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    • powerlounger

      December 10, 2014 at 10:09 am

      Certainly. “Before” or “after” I think might be better considered as “upstream” and/or “downstream”; and there’s nothing to indicate one way or the other that there was only one relevant instance of “cuckoldry”.

      Upstream holds 4 links, thus 4 possibilities for an alternate dad.

      Downstream (measured from R3’s putative gr-gr-grandad Edward III through R3’s (putative) gr-grand-uncle John of Gaunt) holds the 4 links to Henry Beaufort, 3rd Duke of Somerset (ostensibly 3rd cousins to R3), and 11 more links down to Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (acknowledged shared ancestor to the living R1b-Y-DNA relatives). See additional stuff in the post. 🙂

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